Why Miatas Suck

"ienjoyautomotives" (ienjoyautomotives)
12/25/2014 at 01:25 • Filed to: None

Okay, first of all let me say, if you drive a Miata, and you think its totally badass and awesome, good for you. This is about why they suck for me . (Idea was started between !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! and myself)

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1.) There's no space for passengers

Driving a small car is fine, if you're say under 6 ft tall, but when you're 6'5, and whilst the miata has plenty of headroom with the top down, but in that awful event which would cause you need the top up (whether it be a nagging passenger, or weather) you'll be cramped with no headroom.

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2.) Their owners are dicks

Sure not all Miata owners are complete and utter tools about their little "sports car" but many of them are as annoying as they can get, for instance I used to use a quite popular car app, lets just call it CB, anyways there was one guy who on every post on CB that was about a miata, he would put in all caps "MIATAGANG" (to this day I have no idea where the hell this comes from, but the dude owned like 3 Miatas), also they don't shut up about how great of a sports car it is.

3.) Not enough POWAHHH

The Mazda Miata was meant to be a sports car, yet it lacks one of the most important parts of being a sports car. The most powerful model you could get had 167 BHP, this means that it actually has LESS than a BASE MODEL Toyota Camry, and even if it is a blast to drive around corners, that doesn't make up for the fact that an old lady in her Camry could beat you on the highway.

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(PS: NO RAGRETS)

DISCUSSION (100)

Brian Silvestro > ienjoyautomotives
12/24/2014 at 20:01

Dammit I want a Sunburst yellow NA so bad

ienjoyautomotives > Brian Silvestro
12/24/2014 at 20:06

Don't waste your time, honestly, if I wanted a decently cheap sports car with good handling and a manual I'd say a 3000 GT VR4/ Stealth RT/TT would be a better choice, or a built up 3rd gen (or even 4th gen) Camaro, or a C5 vette, or litterally just about anything else

Louros > ienjoyautomotives
12/24/2014 at 20:06

0/10, would not read again

Brian Silvestro > ienjoyautomotives
12/24/2014 at 20:07

But I want a Miata.

mr2gud2u > ienjoyautomotives
12/24/2014 at 20:08

I have thought it, but never had the balls to say it here. I dont know about much about Miata owns though.

Louros > ienjoyautomotives
12/24/2014 at 20:09

lol

ienjoyautomotives > Brian Silvestro
12/24/2014 at 20:10

So I take it you also would like your balls back? JK like I said, this is just why they aren't for me, if they work for you then more power to ya

ienjoyautomotives > Louros
12/24/2014 at 20:11

Are you saying 0/10 people would not read it again? Or are you rating it 0/10? I'd take both as a compliment

505Turbeaux > ienjoyautomotives
12/24/2014 at 20:12

lol 2 days in and going deep. You got balls son. But I agree Miatas blow

ienjoyautomotives > mr2gud2u
12/24/2014 at 20:12

I just think people here overrate them, yes they handle well, and yes they're one of the few cars with a manual trans and RWD and a pure sporty feeling but I just can't get into them. Honestly can't.

djmt1 > ienjoyautomotives
12/24/2014 at 20:13

You sir have balls of Carbon Fibre. I myself don't particularly like the MX5 for the exact same reasons but I wouldn't of kicked the hornet's nest so good luck to you sir and godspeed in your incoming shitstorm.

Disclaimer: I have driven one both at Autocross and on track.

Alex from Toronto > ienjoyautomotives
12/24/2014 at 20:14

The Fiat version will be better.

Manuél Ferrari > Brian Silvestro
12/24/2014 at 20:14

Can you even S2000?

ienjoyautomotives > 505Turbeaux
12/24/2014 at 20:15

My rugby coach taught me a very important lesson: live life balls to the wall every second all the time, no regrets, and so i took it to heart bro.

Brian Silvestro > Manuél Ferrari
12/24/2014 at 20:16

S200os are expensive as fuck!

Manuél Ferrari > Brian Silvestro
12/24/2014 at 20:17

(because they're fucking awesome!)

ienjoyautomotives > djmt1
12/24/2014 at 20:17

I'm sure there more, but I'll make a part two eventually, I know many people agree with this, I'm tired of people on oppo and jalopnik acting like it's better than anything else and being so closed minded about it

ienjoyautomotives > Alex from Toronto
12/24/2014 at 20:18

I completely agree

Manuél Ferrari > Alex from Toronto
12/24/2014 at 20:18

Until the warranty runs out...

Brian Silvestro > Manuél Ferrari
12/24/2014 at 20:18

Justified!

Manuél Ferrari > Brian Silvestro
12/24/2014 at 20:19

Dat engine. Those revs. Much impressed.

qbeezy > ienjoyautomotives
12/24/2014 at 20:19

Kinja'd!!!

Already got my popcorn ready. I hope this makes FP. Seriously.

ienjoyautomotives > qbeezy
12/24/2014 at 20:20

I was waiting for someone to post this

djmt1 > ienjoyautomotives
12/24/2014 at 20:21

I can understand that. Being a Brit, I'm firmly in the Hot Hatch camp so I have to deal with a lot of FWD Sucks posts in particular from Mx5 owners but for the most part I blow it off mostly because I've done the comparison back to back in real life and was so disappointed in the Mazda but mostly because I know that the best FWD cars are virtually non-existent in the States so I struggle to take their critique seriously.

ranwhenparked > Alex from Toronto
12/24/2014 at 20:22

Well, I'll agree on that. May even come as a coupe too.

ienjoyautomotives > djmt1
12/24/2014 at 20:31

Yeah I know, I mean I'm not necessarily a huge fan of FWD cars, but I dig hot hatches, I used to live in Switzerland, and I can't see how someone would take a Miata over a Focus RS, or some of the other hatches offered, and even if they want a cheap convertible, there's so many better options out there

CRider > ienjoyautomotives
12/24/2014 at 20:32

Kinja'd!!!

Jayhawk Jake > ienjoyautomotives
12/24/2014 at 20:32

All of those are way more expensive.

Have you actually driven a Miata? They are fucking fantastic little sports cars. And if you really think it's all about power I implore you to visit an autocross and see just how much the Miatas measly power can do.

mr2gud2u > ienjoyautomotives
12/24/2014 at 20:33

The thing I do find funny is how suddie and Miata guy defend excessive camber or another faux racing mod.

ienjoyautomotives > Jayhawk Jake
12/24/2014 at 20:35

Actually they aren't much more expensive if you look in the right places, and like I said, they just aren't for me, it's nothing personal but as I stated at the top they aren't for me, and I mentioned another very valid reason as to why I dislike them, I'm six five, no headroom bruh

Your boy, BJR > ienjoyautomotives
12/24/2014 at 20:35

THIS. It was funny at first, now it's just annoying as hell.

PS9 > Brian Silvestro
12/24/2014 at 20:36

I believe it has been some time since someone has been Silvestro'd. Might be time for the second coming...

ienjoyautomotives > CRider
12/24/2014 at 20:37

I'm suprised how few miata lovers haven't commented, then again they're probably already in bed, dreaming of what Santa will bring them.

Jayhawk Jake > ienjoyautomotives
12/24/2014 at 20:37

Yes, they are. A decent C5 would be at least $12k, NA Miatas in similar condition are less than 5. And after maintenence, a 3000GT will be at least as costly as a Corvette

Not liking it because it's small has nothing to do with how they drive

ienjoyautomotives > Jayhawk Jake
12/24/2014 at 20:42

That's 2 of the cars I mentioned, a catfish Camaro would be about the same, and those will drive great with some suspension work (the same amount of work would need to be put in a Miatas engine for it to keep up on the straights) and a 3rd gen Camaro would be even cheaper, listen it's great that you like the little car, but IT IS NOT FOR ME, and clearly there are plenty of people who agree, that doesn't mean i think Miata drivers should all die, it just means I'm not gonna drive one.

ienjoyautomotives > Your boy, BJR
12/24/2014 at 20:43

Please tell me more...

Jedidiah > Jayhawk Jake
12/24/2014 at 20:44

They don't do all that well.

I've been to several where most entrants were Miatas and you'd think that out all of the damn things at least one would do well, but I was quite surprised by how often they were outperformed.

CRider > ienjoyautomotives
12/24/2014 at 20:53

Maybe if they're good Miata owners they'll get a LS1.

Brian Silvestro > PS9
12/24/2014 at 20:54

SOON

Milky > Manuél Ferrari
12/24/2014 at 20:58

Will has turbo-4 from Dart/Abarth, not the worst offender for reliability.

Funktheduck > ienjoyautomotives
12/24/2014 at 21:01

Mazdaspeed miata had 178 hp. It was quite quick. Briefly considered one but it's too small for me to have as a primary vehicle.

The Transporter > ienjoyautomotives
12/24/2014 at 21:03

Get a V6 Mustang and be done with it, then.

JustForThisMiataPost > ienjoyautomotives
12/24/2014 at 21:03

Okay so I'm on a burner account for this one for various reasons. In response to an earlier comment, you brought up the 3000GT/Camaro/Vette/etc.

That reply makes me think you don't understand why most Miata enthusiasts like Miatas. Also, I don't have a Miata yet, but it's coming soon.

It's BECAUSE they are so small. Cars that tiny have a certain feel to them and I completely understand why some don't like it. I disagree with a couple of your points, as I personally love the majority of owners I've come across, etc, but I respect your opinion.

If I were to win the lottery, the first thing I would spend it on would be a full Flyin' Miata V8 swap. A vette would be a better performer in just about every category, yes, that I get. I've tracked/autocrossed about 30-odd cars over the past few years, Vettes included. But there's just SOMETHING about that tiny car feeling. I don't even want an NB or NC. I just want an NA because it's that small.

Now I could be very wrong on this and I'm just speaking for me and nobody else lol but hey, maybe it will spark a conversation and hell, what else do we have to do right now? Spend time with family? Pssssssssshhhhh

Dsscats > Funktheduck
12/24/2014 at 21:09

But the gearing sucked hard

Alex from Toronto > Manuél Ferrari
12/24/2014 at 21:11

Or it catches on fire..

ienjoyautomotives > JustForThisMiataPost
12/24/2014 at 21:12

I see where you are coming from, but this was written for me, with me and a few others in mind, and it seems quite a few others agree, if the Miata works for you thats good for you, however it does not work for me

That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms > ienjoyautomotives
12/24/2014 at 21:17

"Cheap" doesn't belong in the same thought as "3000 GT VR4/Stealth TT."

DSMs can be good, cheap, and fast. The problem is you can only choose two of the three.

3rd and 4th gen Camaro, however...you're speaking utter truth there. There's no better performance bargain right now than a 4th gen F-body.

JustForThisMiataPost > ienjoyautomotives
12/24/2014 at 21:17

I feel like you've started copying and pasting that message ;) lol.

Funktheduck > Dsscats
12/24/2014 at 21:20

I only took it on a short test drive and my experience driving manuals was limited at that point.

ienjoyautomotives > JustForThisMiataPost
12/24/2014 at 21:21

Yeah, because people apparently just read the title and get to being a keyboard warrior haha,

Jayhawk Jake > Jedidiah
12/24/2014 at 21:22

Uh, maybe in your region. Miatas dominate here when they are set up properly and have a good driver. I kicked some serious ass in the one I drove.

They do better than anything else he listed besides a C5Z

Milky > ienjoyautomotives
12/24/2014 at 21:23

1. They don't make the Miata for you, they make it for nearly everyone else.

Kinja'd!!!

2. Brostang, Brobalt SS and Brodozer owners are worse.

3. "Straight roads are for fast cars, turns are for fast drivers." -Colin McRae

Jayhawk Jake > ienjoyautomotives
12/24/2014 at 21:23

It's not for you, but that doesn't mean it sucks

Your argument is just stupid: you say the car is bad, but justify it by only saying why it's not for you.

It's not a bad csr. It's not for everyone, but that doesn't make it bad

ienjoyautomotives > That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms
12/24/2014 at 21:24

Obviously you and I have had different experiences with stealths (although my Big Bro did buy his brand new which was 40k at the time, but since then it has had only a few problems here and there)

ienjoyautomotives > Jayhawk Jake
12/24/2014 at 21:25

Yeah, but it's an attention grabbing title, trust me I took journalism in high school (that was supposed to be slightly sarcastic btw)

JustForThisMiataPost > ienjoyautomotives
12/24/2014 at 21:29

Haha I understand. Anyway, here's a pic of the broken off front nose of a Trans Am GT1 Camaro that I plucked off of the track for your troubles!

Kinja'd!!!

DoYouEvenShift > ienjoyautomotives
12/24/2014 at 21:29

Kinja'd!!!

ienjoyautomotives > DoYouEvenShift
12/24/2014 at 21:31

I suggest this always be the answer instead of the Miata

ienjoyautomotives > JustForThisMiataPost
12/24/2014 at 21:32

Thats sick AF

John Norris (AngryDrifter) > ienjoyautomotives
12/24/2014 at 21:33

Miata owners making some track mods http://www.oocities.org/tip_53/3D/ .

Kinja'd!!!

ienjoyautomotives > Milky
12/24/2014 at 21:34

I disagree with that statement, and plenty of other cars can do both with little or no modification, anyways once again i have to redirect you to literally the 1st and 2nd sentences

...If you drive a Miata, and you think its totally badass and awesome, good for you. This is about why they suck for me .

That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms > ienjoyautomotives
12/24/2014 at 21:35

You and every other person on the planet have apparently had different experiences with Stealths. Like the Miata is generally held in high regard by people as a cheap, reliable sports car (I've never driven one, I don't particularly care for them...though I'd have more luck wearing one as a backpack than driving it), the Stealth and 3000 GT are generally regarded as complicated and not particularly reliable.

TheHondaBro > Brian Silvestro
12/24/2014 at 21:35

S2000 bro.

ienjoyautomotives > That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms
12/24/2014 at 21:37

I've heard of the lower end models being unreliable and complicated, but the RT/TTs are pretty reliable from my understanding

John Norris (AngryDrifter) > ienjoyautomotives
12/24/2014 at 21:38

So small you can go 10 wide into the corner at Laguna Seca http://bauerltd.com/laguna-seca-on…

Kinja'd!!!

ienjoyautomotives > John Norris (AngryDrifter)
12/24/2014 at 21:39

"And that day, not a single straight person was found"

Disclaimer: I have nothing against gays, this was meant purely as a joke and to be taken as such

dogisbadob > djmt1
12/24/2014 at 21:40

carbon fiber shatters :p

Scary__goongala! > ienjoyautomotives
12/24/2014 at 21:41

I see your arguement. A NA was not my first choice but I still bought one. Power is not a determining factor for sports cars. I find that not being able to lug multiple around is a upside of miata ownership. You wouldn't be able to enjoy it properly with passengers.

dogisbadob > Milky
12/24/2014 at 21:42

Not BroMW? :p

ienjoyautomotives > Scary__goongala!
12/24/2014 at 21:44

Well I guess different people see it differently, I love straight line speed to much, I blame being brought up around muscle cars, but that's also probably why turns scare me so much haha.

Milky > ienjoyautomotives
12/24/2014 at 21:44

You can't disagree with Colin McRae, its literally impossible.

ienjoyautomotives > Milky
12/24/2014 at 21:48

So you're saying drag racing has nothing to do with the driver? Anyways it's not about that, but you should be able to go around a corner at a decent speed.

samssun > ienjoyautomotives
12/24/2014 at 21:57

3000GT is very heavy and complicated with a sideways engine. When you're recommending alternatives to the Miata kids, at least go with a similar but better version, like the Solstice GXP. Or a TVR.

samssun > djmt1
12/24/2014 at 22:05

Liking hot hatches doesn't mean you have to resign yourself to wrong wheel drive.

Golf R, RS3, WRX, hopefully Focus RS, and if you're open minded, RX-8, 300ZX/370Z, etc.

ienjoyautomotives > samssun
12/24/2014 at 22:07

I honestly totally forget about the solstice GXP and sky redline. but good luck finding a TVR State side

mcseanerson > Jayhawk Jake
12/24/2014 at 22:08

Yeah, that's what sold me on my Miata, watching Miatas own C5 Vettes at the autocross. They might be down on power but they make good torque and weigh less than almost everything else, including Grandma's Camry.

Jayhawk Jake > ienjoyautomotives
12/24/2014 at 22:09

"I can't think of any real reason to dislike the Miata, so I'll resort to the old Gay joke"

Jayhawk Jake > ienjoyautomotives
12/24/2014 at 22:10

Except they are pricey. Corvette is always the answer

Jayhawk Jake > mcseanerson
12/24/2014 at 22:11

Id rather have a C5, but I still like the miata

djmt1 > samssun
12/24/2014 at 22:12

Says to be open minded alongside wrong wheel drive. What is that I see? It is all your credibility go flying out the window.

I Do It For Miatas, NC Owner > ienjoyautomotives
12/24/2014 at 22:15

You want a "cheap" sports car and you suggest a 3000GT VR4?

Kinja'd!!!

mcseanerson > Jayhawk Jake
12/24/2014 at 22:18

I think I would too but a nice Miata is a lot cheaper than a nice Vette.

Manuél Ferrari > Milky
12/24/2014 at 22:28

I'm sure they'll find a way to screw something else up ;)

samssun > djmt1
12/24/2014 at 22:29

Guess I should've said "be open-minded within reason", as I'd never want to condone blanket non-judgment-ism in the face of facts. While FWD's drawbacks can in some cases be somewhat overcome (Focus ST, GTI, Mini), it's objectively limited in driving dynamics, and only exists because of engine/transaxle/wheel packaging. Give a Mazdaspeed 3 a driveshaft and it would immediately jump into a whole new class of performance.

Scary__goongala! > ienjoyautomotives
12/24/2014 at 22:32

I've never driven a car id consider "fast" so ive never had the feeling of being put back into my seat. Ive only rode in one or two fast cars. I also had no exposure to cars when i was younger haha

SnapUndersteer, Italian Spiderman > ienjoyautomotives
12/24/2014 at 22:36

You didn't spell RAGRETS correctly

Kinja'd!!!

ienjoyautomotives > I Do It For Miatas, NC Owner
12/24/2014 at 22:40

I've always heard it was great and reliable this is honestly the first I've heard of it not being so. (my Big Bro owns one for the record Stealth RT/TT)

ienjoyautomotives > Scary__goongala!
12/24/2014 at 22:42

Ah see, I've been in many, I was pretty lucky, and now its addictive haha

ienjoyautomotives > Jayhawk Jake
12/24/2014 at 22:45

Obviously you can't take a joke, seriously what is your problem in particular? I've said it 20 times now. ITS NOT FOR ME, IF ITS FOR YOU, THEN AWESOME, it's a joke, not a dick, don't take it so hard

Scary__goongala! > ienjoyautomotives
12/24/2014 at 22:54

Im sure if my car had a V8 swap id care much more about burnouts, donuts, and straight line pulls lol.

ienjoyautomotives > Scary__goongala!
12/24/2014 at 23:00

Story of my life haha

TheD0k_2many toys 2little time > ienjoyautomotives
12/24/2014 at 23:01

Good for you. I own an 03 Miata and a 97 Talon TSI AWD Putting over 300hp to the wheels. While the Talon is fun to get into boost i cant really do it much. And it handles ok but nothing compared to my stock Miata. The Miata i can rail on almost anywhere cause its not crazy fast in the straight but i can throw it into corners and drive it like a gocart. Also it feels faster at 80 than my talon does at 110.

Your boy, BJR > ienjoyautomotives
12/24/2014 at 23:37

The miata love on here. It reached peak funniness when it spawned a blipshhift shirt, now it is just getting old.

44444444444 > ienjoyautomotives
12/24/2014 at 23:55

As I always say: Volvo V70R is always the answer. Not the Miata.

Roadster Man > ienjoyautomotives
12/25/2014 at 00:07

#1: Who needs passengers? My coilovers make my ride too RAWWWW and RACECAR for passengers anyway.
#2: No, you're a dick.
#3: Up at 5000-72000 rpm there is all the power you need. Hit that rev limiter you pussy.

#Miatalife #Miatagang #miatabrah #miatafarts #miatatatatatataaaaaa

But for real— if you're serious then your sample size for #2 is too small. You need to talk to Miata owners over 25 years old.

DirtyBird > ienjoyautomotives
12/25/2014 at 00:08

i agree about the 4th gens but they have to be the ttop ones with a 6 speed

Kinja'd!!!

Jedidiah > Jayhawk Jake
12/25/2014 at 00:19

That's the thing I don't understand — with how many people run them at the event, you'd think one driver would have to be good.

I remember one in particulalar that surprised me — a Mini and a Civic hatch were consistently turning into better lines than the plethora of Miatas and none of them seemed to be significantly modified.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > ienjoyautomotives
12/25/2014 at 01:01

I'm 100% sure that having tons of power isn't the most import part of a sports car. I believe the vehicle you thinking is called a "muscle car" or a "drag racer" or even a "truck". The most important part of a sports car is that it is quote: "blast to drive around corners" period.

Now if you want to win races, showoff, or set track records, yes THEN power is more important.

ienjoyautomotives > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
12/25/2014 at 01:14

I never said it was the most important part, but atleast 250 hp for a car this size would be nice

ienjoyautomotives > DirtyBird
12/25/2014 at 01:16

ooh that is nice, a few suspension mods, and I'm set, all I need is the money and the mullet (joking)